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Universal basic income (UBI), more generally referred to as basic income, is a regular unconditional sum of money paid to all citizens, or a subset of citizens, that is sufficient in amount to meet their basic needs such as food and housing. Recipients receive cash, rather than in-kind assistance, and are able to set their own priorities on how they spend their basic income. A basic income could replace most existing welfare and anti-poverty programs or extended to n entire population. In its purest form, any income earned by a recipient would not reduce their base income, thereby giving the recipient an incentive to work and earn additional income. It would eliminate the so-called “benefits cliff,” which penalizes welfare recipients when they earn additional income while receiving benefits.

We have entered an age of robotics, algorithms and artificial intelligence. Automation, artificial intelligence, and other technological developments are reducing the need for humans to perform certain functions. While past technological advances have often eliminated or reduced the employment in certain job categories, they have generally led to the creation of a corresponding number of new jobs in entirely new employment categories. Many observers believe that today’s technological advances, particularly in the field of artificial intelligence, may be a “game-changer” and whole categories of jobs will be eliminated without the creation of new jobs.

As a result, social scientists, economists, and politicians are searching for solutions on how to lessen the economic and social trauma affecting those individuals (and their families) who could experience a disruption of their employment. Basic income is one of those potential solutions. While the current discussion of basic income is mostly about providing a safety net for those individuals facing the loss of their jobs due to technological advances, perhaps the most transformative aspect of basic income is the freedom it would give individuals over their own lives without governmental interference.

While currently the most vocal proponents of a basic income are liberals and progressives (such as Robert Reich and Andy Stern), who advocate their support for the concept under the banner of “social justice”, there have been a significant number of prominent conservatives and libertarians, including Milton Friedman and Charles Murray, who have advocated for some form of a universal basic income. Milton Friedman argued that a basic income (or a negative income tax, as he called it) would reduce government bureaucracy and the costs associated with it through the elimination of a host of anti-poverty and welfare programs. He believed that it would shift power from bureaucrats to individuals, who would benefit by being able to make their own decisions on how to spend their money. They would also psychologically benefit from the greater dignity that comes with the elimination of paternalistic oversight. Friedman believed that it would give individuals currently on welfare an incentive to work. While a basic income is its purest form would not negatively penalize a recipient’s additional income, Friedman’s plan would reduce the basic income paid to a recipient as additional income is earned. A basic income would also give individuals the freedom to pursue charitable and volunteer careers that do not provide a high level of compensation. Some proponents argue that it would stimulate entrepreneurial activity, as it would incent individuals to take more risks in their careers.

In 1969, the Nixon Administration tried to get a modified basic income program for the poor (the “Family Assistance Plan”) passed by Congress. Despite significant support (it passed in the House), the plan ultimately failed.

One objection to basic income centers upon the fear that we could be creating a sub-class of citizens who are content to merely exist on their basic income and disinclined to contribute their talents to the greater good. Do we really need to create a sub-class of citizens who are pot-smoking slackers and an audience for Jerry Springer living off of the largess of the government? Well, in case you have not noticed, such a sub-class already exists.

A more significant concern is cost. While much of the cost of a universal basic income could be covered by the elimination of various anti-poverty and welfare programs, the implementation of a truly universal basic income would require additional funding, most likely from a tax increase or an increase in our deficit spending, both of which are currently politically unpalatable. The cost issue could be mitigated by adopting a modified basic income that is “means-tested” or one that includes some reduction of the base income as the recipient earns additional income. A basic income program could also have a work requirement.

A number of local pilot programs, all in their early stages, have been initiated in Oakland, Ontario, Kenya, and Finland. Silicon Valley – the source of much of the technology that is disrupting the labor markets – has taken an interest in the concept. The Kenyan pilot program being conducted by GiveDirectly is particularly interesting. If successful, it could revolutionize the way foreign and charitable aid is distributed. In 2016, Switzerland held a referendum on a proposal to provide all of its citizens with a universal basic income of approximately $2,555 per month. The proposal was defeated 77% to 23%.

The purpose of this board is to share information on the concept of a basic income and to track the progress of the various pilot programs that are being rolled out. It is possible that future technological advances will lead the creation of new industries providing plentiful employment, thereby eliminating the need for a basic income. Regardless, the topic merits monitoring. I have posted a variety articles, videos and podcasts (including an excellent one by Freakonomics’ Stephen Dubner) on the subject, both pro and con. Realistically, a basic income is not going to be implemented in my lifetime, nor the lifetime of most of the current members of the SI community. It is a utopian concept, the implementation of which would require overcoming a large number of economic and political challenges. However, I would not be surprised to see some local programs adopted to replace existing welfare programs.

While I am generally opposed to the wholesale transfer of wealth through government programs, I think that the concept of a basic income merits serious consideration, most specifically as a potential replacement for our current welfare structure. I doubt that many would disagree with the fact that our current welfare system is demeaning to the people it serves and that it strips them of dignity, and too often, the ambition and incentive to escape the system. Hopefully, our upcoming technological advances create new jobs as the old jobs are rendered obsolete, which would mitigate the needs for a universal basic income. If not, we are going to have to rethink our safety net. I believe that a basic income would have the added benefit of reducing crime. It would not deter the truly ambitious from pursuing greater wealth, and it might incent them to pursue opportunities that they would normally regard as too risky.

I am under no illusions that a certain percentage of our population would be inclined to merely cash their checks and simply exist in a semi-vegetative state. So be it. However, as Charles Murray has argued in his defense of a universal basic income, if we accept the fact that we live in a society that is going to make transfer payments, we should insist that those payments are made as efficiently as possible, with minimal government oversight, and that they provide incentives for individuals to seek employment. I agree with this view.

I expect the conversation to be civil and will not hesitate to exercise my powers as the moderator if it is not.

Selected resources


Freakonomics podcast: freakonomics.com
Basic Income News: basicincome.org
Milton Friedman interview (conducted by William F, Buckley Jr): youtube.com
GiveDirectly website: givedirectly.org
BIEN update on pilot programs (May 2017): basicincome.org
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127Another pilot program from Y Combinator: Silicon Valley giant Y Combinator to gGlenn Petersen-last Thursday
126 "cannibalizing" other arms of the government is a feature, not a bugTimF-last Wednesday
125Joe Biden rejects the idea of a universal basic income: Biden rejects universalGlenn Petersen-last Wednesday
124Long hours, low pay, and relatively low safety that might seem a totally unreasoGlenn Petersen-last Wednesday
123I am by no means endorsing Andy Stern's approach. Raising taxes and reducingGlenn Petersen-last Wednesday
122Somewhat OT - I don't really agree with the post's negative portrayal oTimF-last Wednesday
121While this is a little (a lot?) OT, it seems to fit. Message 31271807kidl-last Wednesday
120Unreasonable working conditions are largely a mater of context and perspective. TimF1last Wednesday
119So Stern's plan of paying for it is higher taxes, more taxes, and a reductioTimF-last Wednesday
118UBI and Health Care: What's Wrong With Murray's Approach Bryan CaplTimF-last Wednesday
117If libertarians are concerned to protect the freedom of all, and not just the frTimF-last Wednesday
116The full PwC report (Will robots steal our jobs):pwc.co.uk Say hello to your coGlenn Petersen1September 9
115Screw Branson. let him give his money away. I love how these billionaire turds wgolfer72-September 7
114Oh yeah lets follow what Europe does LOL! They have been in a long slide to socigolfer72-September 7
113Scotland is considering funding a number of basic income pilot programs: ScotlaGlenn Petersen-September 6
112Wary of robots taking jobs, Hawaii toys with guaranteed pay MarketWatch CBS/AP Glenn Petersen-September 5
111More details on the Roosevelt Institute plan, which uses a very aggressive set oGlenn Petersen-September 1
110pretty much a "nothing" story but the topic is right for this thread. elpolvo-August 31
109This latest wave of automation has spurred anxiety among scholars and policymakeGlenn Petersen-August 31
108An optimistic vision on the impact of AI on the job market: We Survived SpreadsGlenn Petersen-August 26
107Richard Branson is the latest billionaire to come out in support of UBI: RicharGlenn Petersen-August 25
106Good article. Privatizing the U.S,. infrastructure would take an enormous amountGlenn Petersen-August 24
105h/t Don Green Message 31225703 How Artificial Intelligence Will Disrupt Your LGlenn Petersen-August 24
104Silicon Valley Pushes the Wrong Kind of Basic Income kidl1August 10
103A GiveDirectly update from NPR: How To Fix Poverty: Why Not Just Give People MoGlenn Petersen-August 7
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